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    PostThe Last Outlaw Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:18 am

    POINT: Harry and Meghan Are Out. Why Couldn't The Palace Make This Work?  COUNTERPOINT: In Royal Showdown, Queen Elizabeth Bests Meghan Markle IUbQr

    Welcome to this all-new edition of POINT -- COUNTERPOINT.  For the first time ever, I am posting an edition of POINT -- COUNTERPOINT that has nothing to do with politics or Donald Trump! Today, we have a point regarding the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and why things couldn't have worked out. Carla Hall of the Los Angeles Times asks why? On the other side, Emma Freire looks at this as sort of a competition and she declares that the Queen bests Meghan Markle.  As always, I have but one question for YOU on this site:  Are you siding with the POINT or the COUNTERPOINT?  Let's get started.

    NOTE: The opinions in these articles are the authors, as published by the source, and do not necessarily represent the views of Bethea's Byte.




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    From the Los Angeles Times

    Carla Hall of The Los Angeles Times wrote:
    POINT: Harry and Meghan Are Out. Why Couldn't The Palace Make This Work?  COUNTERPOINT: In Royal Showdown, Queen Elizabeth Bests Meghan Markle $

    The message from Buckingham Palace to Queen Elizabeth’s grandson, Prince Harry, and his wife, Meghan Markle, was clear: You’re in or you’re out. There is no part-time work for royals. Harry and Meghan chose out.

    That’s kind of sad. And surprising. What — they couldn’t all work this out?

    I get it that, barely two years into a marriage that was supposed to signal a breathtaking infusion of modernity into the British royal family, the couple was sick of the tabloid coverage. But not all the news coverage of them has been bad. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be the international celebrities that they are.

    I would have advised Meghan to return to England after her and Harry’s extravagantly long Christmas break in Vancouver and give it another go, for a year. Then reassess. Instead, they came back, dropped the bombshell that they wanted to work part time as royals and spend half the year outside Britain. And Meghan immediately returned to Canada — which she obviously knew she was going to do, because she left their baby, Archie, there (with a nanny and a close friend).

    But once they did announce they wanted to be royals on their own schedule (what my colleague, Patt Morrison, called having their “royal gateau” and eating it too), why couldn’t the palace figure out a way to do that? It can’t be that they just don’t want someone doing the job of opening hospitals and visiting community centers part time. It’s not like the palace is going to hire someone else to replace them.

    The queen’s statement was like a heartbreaking farewell:

    “Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved members of my family,” she said. She concluded, “It is my whole family’s hope that today’s agreement allows them to start building a happy and peaceful new life.”

    However, the palace has made it clear that they can’t represent the queen and keep their status and titles while they promote or advocate for whatever they choose.

    So they are giving up the use of their titles as royal highnesses (something they, reportedly, did want to keep), but they still get to call themselves the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. And Harry will give up his honorary military appointments. His work in the military and on behalf of the military has meant a lot to him, so that’s got to feel like a big loss. They will no longer be supported by public funds. That makes sense. And the couple is paying back the $3 million in public funds they spent to refurbish Frogmore Cottage, the house on the grounds of Windsor Castle that the queen gave them. They get to keep the crib, by the way.

    So how will they make a living? That’s been the multimillion-dollar question from the start of all this. They will continue to be supported by Harry’s father, Prince Charles, possibly through his Duchy of Cornwall hereditary estate. Considering however many millions they have on their own (from Meghan’s career or, perhaps, from whatever inheritance Harry got from his late mother, Diana) and the millions that Charles has given them, these kids are not going to live paycheck to paycheck. But if they do want to make money on their own — as they have said they do — they are going to have to find something more profitable than licensing their pictures on mugs (although I would certainly buy a bunch) or something classier than sitting on the board of some controversial drug company. Where on that spectrum Meghan returning to acting or doing voice-over work fits remains to be seen. According to a statement from Buckingham Palace, the Sussexes “have made clear that everything they do will continue to uphold the values of Her Majesty.”

    They will still advocate for the charities and the nonprofit groups they have been involved in.

    Believe it or not, all this would be easier if Harry and Meghan truly renounced all the privileges and royal connections and said to his folks, “We want to work for nonprofits in Canada and Africa and live in a townhouse in Toronto, and we’ll see you at Christmas.” But that’s not what they seem to want. Ideally, they want to leverage the royal family brand and prestige for only the causes they choose on their own schedule — and live really well while they’re doing it. Who could blame them? That sounds good to me too.

    But doing that is inextricably tied to being a working member of a publicly financed high-profile organization that owes the public something in return — high-visibility public appearances, in particular.

    It will be fascinating to see how Harry and Meghan chart this new course. And here is one thing that neither the royal family nor the couple can escape: Harry is still a member of the royal family, sixth in line to the throne. He’s not disowning his family.

    No matter what they do, we are all still interested in them. My guess is they’re counting on that.



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    From The Federalist Newspapers

    Emma Freire of The Federalist Newspapers wrote:
    POINT: Harry and Meghan Are Out. Why Couldn't The Palace Make This Work?  COUNTERPOINT: In Royal Showdown, Queen Elizabeth Bests Meghan Markle $

    Megxit has been resolved almost as soon as it began. On January 8, the duke and duchess of Sussex, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, announced on Instagram they were going to “step back” as senior members of the royal family. The wording of their post seemed to indicate they wanted to continue to enjoy the perks of royalty while cashing in on their global fame.

    During the run-up to the royal wedding, Harry is alleged to have yelled at staff, “What Meghan wants, Meghan gets!” Apparently, that doesn’t apply when Meghan goes up against Queen Elizabeth II.

    On January 18, an announcement from Buckingham Palace made it clear that Harry and Meghan will not get to have their cake and eat it too. With the monarchy, you are either in or you are out. And Harry and Meghan are out. They will stop using their His and Her Royal Highness titles. They will also repay the millions of public funds spent to renovate their house.

    The cost of the renovation, which was completed less than a year ago, had already attracted significant criticism. So Harry and Meghan’s decision to move away added insult to injury.

    Queen Elizabeth defused the Harry and Meghan crisis in record time. This raises the question: doesn’t she deserve to have some actual powers instead of merely symbolic ones? If Queen Elizabeth had been allowed to handle Brexit like she handled Megxit, the British people would have been spared the embarrassing ordeal of the past three years.

    She also displayed her ruthlessness last November when she fired her son Prince Andrew from public duties. He became a liability after he gave a disastrous TV interview about his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. Family or no family, Andrew had to go.

    To date, Andrew is the only public figure who has paid a significant price for associating with Epstein. Many American elected officials were also friends of the late pedophile, but they are successfully avoiding any consequences. Have we reached a moment in history when royalty is more accountable to the people than democratic institutions? The way Queen Elizabeth has dealt with Andrew, Harry, and Meghan certainly suggests as much.

    The Megxit story got wall-to-wall coverage all over the world, knocking America’s supposedly imminent war with Iran off the front pages. Much of the commentary suggested Harry and Meghan’s departure represented an existential threat to the monarchy. That’s absurd. This was always a side show.

    The situation has drawn comparisons to King Edward VIII’s abdication in 1936 so he could marry Wallis Simpson. In both cases, there was a divorced American woman involved, but that’s where the similarities end. The abdication was a real crisis. In 1936, fascism and communism were rising across Europe. World War II was about to break out. The disruption of the monarchy was a threat to the British way of life. The year 2020 is an oasis of stability compared to that time.

    Moreover, Edward VIII was king. Prince Harry is only sixth in line to the throne. He was always destined for oblivion once Prince William and Duchess Kate’s three children grow up and take the spotlight.

    Going forward, Harry and Meghan will probably reappear every few years to embarrass the monarchy with their money-making ventures, as they already did last week in the video that surfaced of Harry asking the CEO of Disney to give Meghan voiceover work. But that’s the extent of this “crisis.”

    Megxit got saturation coverage mainly because it’s a lot of fun. This tussle has royalty, Hollywood, and family drama. I think we all find it reassuring to hear that royals are just like us in not getting along sometimes with their in-laws.

    Meghan has a small but loud coterie of fans on Twitter. But they’ll soon move on to their next cause. I suspect these fans are people who are like her. They’ve dumped parents, spouses, and friends for advancement.

    Meghan vindicates them because, despite her past, she got a Disney princess wedding with a white dress and tiara. She makes it seem like it is okay to have ghosted your old friends, and normal to be estranged from your father. One fan tweeted on the wedding day: “All my females. If Meghan never left her first marriage she wouldn’t be a princess today or royalty. There is always better.” That tweet got 300,000 likes.

    Meghan’s fans are good for the occasional Twitter mob. Maybe they’ll buy some of the “Sussex Royal” merchandise the couple have apparently trademarked. But they are way too self-absorbed to form a movement that will support her for decades to come.

    Some of the Megxit commentary has tried to find a deeper meaning in all this by suggesting Harry and Meghan represent the triumph of celebrity culture over royalty. Let’s wait and see. The British royal family has been around for 1,000 years. Celebrity culture has a considerably shorter pedigree.

    When a newspaper accidentally printed his obituary, the great American author Mark Twain joked, “The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.” Whenever a scandal hits the House of Windsor, the media predicts this is the one that will finally get the queen tossed out of her palace. It never happens. With Megxit, as with previous royal dramas, the reports of the monarchy’s death are greatly exaggerated.
    Now the opinions are left to you.  Which way do you see this.  Do you side with the Point or Counterpoint.  Vote and drop in your commentary.  I look forward to reading and responding to you.

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    PostKyng Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:37 pm

    I found myself agreeing more with the Point on this occasion. I bear no ill will towards either of them (which is probably easy enough because I didn't care too much about them to begin with Razz ), and I wish them all the best for the future.

    One area where I agree with the Counterpoint, though, is with the whole "This won't bring down the monarchy". It'll survive this - and, in fact, the exposure which this has received at home and abroad might even strengthen it.

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