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Kyng Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:12 am
https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-eu-demands-uk-scraps-plans-to-override-parts-of-withdrawal-agreement-by-end-of-the-month-12068247
The UK government has rejected EU demands to scrap draft legislation that Brussels deems a "clear breach" of the Brexit withdrawal deal.
The EU's demand - accompanied by a threat of legal action and a suggestion Brexit trade talks could be halted if the UK does not back down - followed emergency talks between senior EU and UK figures on Thursday.
But senior cabinet minister Michael Gove, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, vowed the UK "would not and could not" agree to the EU's request to drop the legislation.
The stand-off over the Withdrawal Agreement has cast fresh tensions over the relationship between Brussels and London, with trade talks over a future EU-UK relationship continuing to remain deadlocked.
Following an eighth round of negotiations this week, both the EU and UK chief negotiators admitted "significant" differences remain in key areas.
Can't say I'm happy about this at all. I didn't vote for Brexit; however, when it became clear that it was going to happen, I at least hoped that we would negotiate in good faith for a deal which we would abide by. Sadly, it seems that that's not what has happened - and now, I'm left wondering why any country would bother negotiating with us.
I do hope that this doesn't completely wreck our position on the world stage
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The UK government has rejected EU demands to scrap draft legislation that Brussels deems a "clear breach" of the Brexit withdrawal deal.
The EU's demand - accompanied by a threat of legal action and a suggestion Brexit trade talks could be halted if the UK does not back down - followed emergency talks between senior EU and UK figures on Thursday.
But senior cabinet minister Michael Gove, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, vowed the UK "would not and could not" agree to the EU's request to drop the legislation.
The stand-off over the Withdrawal Agreement has cast fresh tensions over the relationship between Brussels and London, with trade talks over a future EU-UK relationship continuing to remain deadlocked.
Following an eighth round of negotiations this week, both the EU and UK chief negotiators admitted "significant" differences remain in key areas.
Can't say I'm happy about this at all. I didn't vote for Brexit; however, when it became clear that it was going to happen, I at least hoped that we would negotiate in good faith for a deal which we would abide by. Sadly, it seems that that's not what has happened - and now, I'm left wondering why any country would bother negotiating with us.
I do hope that this doesn't completely wreck our position on the world stage
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The Last Outlaw Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:53 am
@Kyng wrote:https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-eu-demands-uk-scraps-plans-to-override-parts-of-withdrawal-agreement-by-end-of-the-month-12068247
The UK government has rejected EU demands to scrap draft legislation that Brussels deems a "clear breach" of the Brexit withdrawal deal.
The EU's demand - accompanied by a threat of legal action and a suggestion Brexit trade talks could be halted if the UK does not back down - followed emergency talks between senior EU and UK figures on Thursday.
But senior cabinet minister Michael Gove, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, vowed the UK "would not and could not" agree to the EU's request to drop the legislation.
The stand-off over the Withdrawal Agreement has cast fresh tensions over the relationship between Brussels and London, with trade talks over a future EU-UK relationship continuing to remain deadlocked.
Following an eighth round of negotiations this week, both the EU and UK chief negotiators admitted "significant" differences remain in key areas.
Can't say I'm happy about this at all. I didn't vote for Brexit; however, when it became clear that it was going to happen, I at least hoped that we would negotiate in good faith for a deal which we would abide by. Sadly, it seems that that's not what has happened - and now, I'm left wondering why any country would bother negotiating with us.
I do hope that this doesn't completely wreck our position on the world stage
Compared to where we are right now, you guys in the UK are doing just fine. At least you have something resembling leadership. We have the village idiot.
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Kyng Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:31 am
@The Last Outlaw wrote:@Kyng wrote:https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-eu-demands-uk-scraps-plans-to-override-parts-of-withdrawal-agreement-by-end-of-the-month-12068247
The UK government has rejected EU demands to scrap draft legislation that Brussels deems a "clear breach" of the Brexit withdrawal deal.
The EU's demand - accompanied by a threat of legal action and a suggestion Brexit trade talks could be halted if the UK does not back down - followed emergency talks between senior EU and UK figures on Thursday.
But senior cabinet minister Michael Gove, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, vowed the UK "would not and could not" agree to the EU's request to drop the legislation.
The stand-off over the Withdrawal Agreement has cast fresh tensions over the relationship between Brussels and London, with trade talks over a future EU-UK relationship continuing to remain deadlocked.
Following an eighth round of negotiations this week, both the EU and UK chief negotiators admitted "significant" differences remain in key areas.
Can't say I'm happy about this at all. I didn't vote for Brexit; however, when it became clear that it was going to happen, I at least hoped that we would negotiate in good faith for a deal which we would abide by. Sadly, it seems that that's not what has happened - and now, I'm left wondering why any country would bother negotiating with us.
I do hope that this doesn't completely wreck our position on the world stage
Compared to where we are right now, you guys in the UK are doing just fine. At least you have something resembling leadership. We have the village idiot.
Yeah, that's pretty much the only positive I can take away from our current situation
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Kyng Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:04 pm
Just as an update to this... our talks have hit a difficulty at the last minute, and France is threatening to veto the entire deal:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-deal-france-eu-boris-johnson-b1766164.html
Not an ideal position to be in - but, perhaps it wouldn't have happened if our side had been more willing to negotiate in good faith ...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-deal-france-eu-boris-johnson-b1766164.html
Not an ideal position to be in - but, perhaps it wouldn't have happened if our side had been more willing to negotiate in good faith
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The Last Outlaw Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:31 pm
@Kyng wrote:Just as an update to this... our talks have hit a difficulty at the last minute, and France is threatening to veto the entire deal:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-deal-france-eu-boris-johnson-b1766164.html
Not an ideal position to be in - but, perhaps it wouldn't have happened if our side had been more willing to negotiate in good faith
That sounds like a problem that needs to be smoothed over before it breaks down and France acts like one of our investors on the US TV Show "Shark Tank" and says two words: "I'm out."
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Kyng Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:49 pm
Well, sadly, it does seem as though there hasn't been any real progress here, and we may well be leaving without a deal:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55319853
One of the main sticking points is fishing rights: the EU wants access to the UK's fisheries (and I believe we'd get access to theirs in return), but our negotiators believe that'd be a bad trade-off. Talks are continuing through the week, but I'm not optimistic .
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55319853
One of the main sticking points is fishing rights: the EU wants access to the UK's fisheries (and I believe we'd get access to theirs in return), but our negotiators believe that'd be a bad trade-off. Talks are continuing through the week, but I'm not optimistic
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The Last Outlaw Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:51 pm
@Kyng wrote:Well, sadly, it does seem as though there hasn't been any real progress here, and we may well be leaving without a deal:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55319853
One of the main sticking points is fishing rights: the EU wants access to the UK's fisheries (and I believe we'd get access to theirs in return), but our negotiators believe that'd be a bad trade-off. Talks are continuing through the week, but I'm not optimistic
Let's hope those talk turn into something that works for everyone.
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