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- KyngVIP Member
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47660019
The UK could be offered a Brexit delay to 22 May on the condition MPs approve the PM's deal next week, a draft European Council document says.
EU leaders are still in discussions in Brussels over the UK's request to postpone the 29 March exit date by three months.
However there have been reports that an extension could be offered until 7 May only.
The draft document says no extension is possible beyond the European elections.
In Brussels, Prime Minister Theresa May spoke to leaders to try to get their backing for a delay, after MPs twice rejected the withdrawal deal she has negotiated with the European Union.
Okay - so, on the one hand, May's deal has been voted down twice by Parliament, by large margins. On the other hand, if the EU sticks to its guns, and Parliament sticks to its guns, then we'll crash out of the EU without a deal next Friday - and both sides are very keen to avoid that.
So, who - if anybody - will capitulate?
The UK could be offered a Brexit delay to 22 May on the condition MPs approve the PM's deal next week, a draft European Council document says.
EU leaders are still in discussions in Brussels over the UK's request to postpone the 29 March exit date by three months.
However there have been reports that an extension could be offered until 7 May only.
The draft document says no extension is possible beyond the European elections.
In Brussels, Prime Minister Theresa May spoke to leaders to try to get their backing for a delay, after MPs twice rejected the withdrawal deal she has negotiated with the European Union.
Okay - so, on the one hand, May's deal has been voted down twice by Parliament, by large margins. On the other hand, if the EU sticks to its guns, and Parliament sticks to its guns, then we'll crash out of the EU without a deal next Friday - and both sides are very keen to avoid that.
So, who - if anybody - will capitulate?
@Kyng wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47660019
The UK could be offered a Brexit delay to 22 May on the condition MPs approve the PM's deal next week, a draft European Council document says.
EU leaders are still in discussions in Brussels over the UK's request to postpone the 29 March exit date by three months.
However there have been reports that an extension could be offered until 7 May only.
The draft document says no extension is possible beyond the European elections.
In Brussels, Prime Minister Theresa May spoke to leaders to try to get their backing for a delay, after MPs twice rejected the withdrawal deal she has negotiated with the European Union.
Okay - so, on the one hand, May's deal has been voted down twice by Parliament, by large margins. On the other hand, if the EU sticks to its guns, and Parliament sticks to its guns, then we'll crash out of the EU without a deal next Friday - and both sides are very keen to avoid that.
So, who - if anybody - will capitulate?
They had it, then they didn't, now it's close to being done again. Keep us up to date with this one, @Kyng!
- KyngVIP Member
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Well, I'd love to keep you up to date, but I don't know any better than you do!@The Last Outlaw wrote:@Kyng wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47660019
The UK could be offered a Brexit delay to 22 May on the condition MPs approve the PM's deal next week, a draft European Council document says.
EU leaders are still in discussions in Brussels over the UK's request to postpone the 29 March exit date by three months.
However there have been reports that an extension could be offered until 7 May only.
The draft document says no extension is possible beyond the European elections.
In Brussels, Prime Minister Theresa May spoke to leaders to try to get their backing for a delay, after MPs twice rejected the withdrawal deal she has negotiated with the European Union.
Okay - so, on the one hand, May's deal has been voted down twice by Parliament, by large margins. On the other hand, if the EU sticks to its guns, and Parliament sticks to its guns, then we'll crash out of the EU without a deal next Friday - and both sides are very keen to avoid that.
So, who - if anybody - will capitulate?
They had it, then they didn't, now it's close to being done again. Keep us up to date with this one, @Kyng!
Parliament has rejected May's deal; they've rejected leaving without a deal; they've rejected leaving with a customs union; and they've rejected staying in the EU, so there doesn't seem to be a lot left...
- KyngVIP Member
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As of right now, Brexit has been delayed until 31st October.
In the mean time, May is still trying to get her deal through Parliament (after it's already been voted down three times) - and, this time, she's telling MPs that, if they pass her deal, then they can vote on a second EU referendum:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48357017
Of course, this is going down in flames. The Brexiteers think she's making too many concessions, and the Remainers think she's not going far enough.
In the mean time, May is still trying to get her deal through Parliament (after it's already been voted down three times) - and, this time, she's telling MPs that, if they pass her deal, then they can vote on a second EU referendum:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48357017
Of course, this is going down in flames. The Brexiteers think she's making too many concessions, and the Remainers think she's not going far enough.
@Kyng wrote:As of right now, Brexit has been delayed until 31st October.
In the mean time, May is still trying to get her deal through Parliament (after it's already been voted down three times) - and, this time, she's telling MPs that, if they pass her deal, then they can vote on a second EU referendum:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48357017
Of course, this is going down in flames. The Brexiteers think she's making too many concessions, and the Remainers think she's not going far enough.
My simple question is this: What does the "Brexiteers" want and what does the "Remainers" want and how can both sides come together so that they can both be satisfied?
- KyngVIP Member
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Well, it seems there won't be any more delays, and we're going to leave on 31st October. Indeed, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has gone as far as to suspend Parliament for over a month:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49493632
It's true that it's normal for new Prime Ministers to suspend Parliament shortly after joining - but, usually, it's only for a few days (or a couple of weeks at most). The fact that he's doing it for over a month just smacks of an attempt to ram through a harmful no-deal Brexit >_< .
Granted, Parliament has been completely useless at resolving the Brexit deadlock (they've been given a bunch of options on how to handle Brexit - and they've rejected every single one of them). But, I really don't think this is going to solve anything, unless we somehow enter an age of economic prosperity. But, if this no-deal Brexit leads to the country's economy tanking (as all the experts are predicting), then there are going to be a lot of people who are very angry with how it was brought about.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49493632
It's true that it's normal for new Prime Ministers to suspend Parliament shortly after joining - but, usually, it's only for a few days (or a couple of weeks at most). The fact that he's doing it for over a month just smacks of an attempt to ram through a harmful no-deal Brexit >_< .
Granted, Parliament has been completely useless at resolving the Brexit deadlock (they've been given a bunch of options on how to handle Brexit - and they've rejected every single one of them). But, I really don't think this is going to solve anything, unless we somehow enter an age of economic prosperity. But, if this no-deal Brexit leads to the country's economy tanking (as all the experts are predicting), then there are going to be a lot of people who are very angry with how it was brought about.
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